Chinese and English Names of 10 Gods

[Bazisuanming]

Bi Jian - Friendly Parallel,Compare Shoulders - same element and same gender as DM

Jie Cai - Rob Wealth,Unfriendly Parallel,Opposite Parallel - same element and opposite gender as DM

Zheng Yin - Direct Resource,Correct Seal,Proper Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,opposite gender

Pian Yin - Indirect Resource,Slanted Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,same gender

Zheng Guan - Direct Officer,Direct Power - the element controlling the DM,opposite gender

Pian Guan - Indirect Officer,Indirect Power(or Qi Sha - 7 Killings) - the element controlling the DM,same gender

Zheng Cai - Direct Wealth,Proper Wealth - the element controled by the DM,opposite gender

Pian Cai - Indirect Wealth - the element controled by the DM,same gender

Shi Shen - Eating God,Gracious Output - the element given birth to by the DM,same gender

Shang Guan - Hurting Officer,Drastic Output - the element given birth to by the DM,opposite gender

 

[meek]

Hi bzsm,

I'd like to add the 10 gods into the Glossary. Would you mind if I use the English terms you've posted here? I have done two as examples:
Zheng Yin
Pian Yin

 

[Bazisuanming]

Hi Meek

I'd like to add the 10 gods into the Glossary. Would you mind if I use the English terms you've posted here? I have done two as examples:
Zheng Yin
Pian Yin

Sorry for the late reply,but read your request only today 
Good idea to include the 10 gods into the glossary.    Feel free to use these terms
and any other terms I posted to this list.

 bzsm

[meek]

Hi bzsm,

Many thanks .

The 10 gods are now added into the glossary.

 

[skylyte]

Bi Jian - Friendly Parallel,Compare Shoulders - same element and same gender as DM

Jie Cai - Rob Wealth,Unfriendly Parallel,Opposite Parallel - same element and opposite gender as DM

Zheng Yin - Direct Resource,Correct Seal,Proper Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,opposite gender

Pian Yin - Indirect Resource,Slanted Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,same gender

Zheng Guan - Direct Officer,Direct Power - the element controlling the DM,opposite gender

Pian Guan - Indirect Officer,Indirect Power(or Qi Sha - 7 Killings) - the element controlling the DM,same gender

Zheng Cai - Direct Wealth,Proper Wealth - the element controled by the DM,opposite gender

Pian Cai - Indirect Wealth - the element controled by the DM,same gender

Shi Shen - Eating God,Gracious Output - the element given birth to by the DM,same gender

Shang Guan - Hurting Officer,Drastic Output - the element given birth to by the DM,opposite gender

 

Hello Bazisuanming,

I hope this is proper area to ask questions relating to your post.
By having Zheng Cai/Direct Wealth in chart mean you will do well financially or in career? I have strong Earth DM with water in stem and also earth and waters in month and year stems. (I put below to see because I can't explain well ) Do all have to be in same pillars for the gods to apply? What does it mean if you are missing some gods?

Hour        Day          Month       Year                       
Bi Jian       DM         Bi Jian       Shang Guen
Wu            Wu          Wu          Xin
Wu            Zi            Xu          Hai
Ding          Gui          Wu          Ren
Ji                            Xin          Jia
                              Ding
Imperial    Foetus     Tomb         Dead End
Yang Ren  General   Lonesome   Death Star
Void        Jiu Chou     Star         

Warm Regards,
skylyte

[eowsl]

Hi, i've attended Bazi class and for Bi Jian - it is called "friends" & Pian Guan - it is called "seven killings". Just want to point out that some teaching refer to these names.

Bi Jian - Friendly Parallel,Compare Shoulders - same element and same gender as DM

Jie Cai - Rob Wealth,Unfriendly Parallel,Opposite Parallel - same element and opposite gender as DM

Zheng Yin - Direct Resource,Correct Seal,Proper Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,opposite gender

Pian Yin - Indirect Resource,Slanted Seal - the element giving birth to the DM,same gender

Zheng Guan - Direct Officer,Direct Power - the element controlling the DM,opposite gender

Pian Guan - Indirect Officer,Indirect Power(or Qi Sha - 7 Killings) - the element controlling the DM,same gender

Zheng Cai - Direct Wealth,Proper Wealth - the element controled by the DM,opposite gender

Pian Cai - Indirect Wealth - the element controled by the DM,same gender

Shi Shen - Eating God,Gracious Output - the element given birth to by the DM,same gender

Shang Guan - Hurting Officer,Drastic Output - the element given birth to by the DM,opposite gender

 

[sgmeridian]

I am relatively new at this, but isn't whether or not Zheng Cai is good or bad depend on the strength of the DM?  If the DM is strong, then he/she can control his wealth, but if the DM is weak, then having Zheng Cai will bring about money problems unless he/she has Bian Jian/Jie Cai and/or Yin to strengthen the DM?

Hello Bazisuanming,

I hope this is proper area to ask questions relating to your post.
By having Zheng Cai/Direct Wealth in chart mean you will do well financially or in career? I have strong Earth DM with water in stem and also earth and waters in month and year stems. (I put below to see because I can't explain well ) Do all have to be in same pillars for the gods to apply? What does it mean if you are missing some gods?

Hour        Day          Month       Year                       
Bi Jian       DM         Bi Jian       Shang Guen
Wu            Wu          Wu          Xin
Wu            Zi            Xu          Hai
Ding          Gui          Wu          Ren
Ji                            Xin          Jia
                              Ding
Imperial    Foetus     Tomb         Dead End
Yang Ren  General   Lonesome   Death Star
Void        Jiu Chou     Star         

Warm Regards,
skylyte

[taodao]

My understanding is that the relationships are the same, but you have to use them in the correct way. For example to a strong BING dm, then REN who represents a controlling force, is favorable because it should balance the strong fire in the chart. Opposite situation is weak fire being hurt by water. Hope I dont make it more confusing.

[convexset]

Hi,

I was wondering, how do the 10 gods relate to the earthly branches?

[Bazisuanming]

thank you so much for the info

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[OrangeBlossom]

Did this tab yet exist ?
If yes, I will delete it.
If no, how can I make lisible rows and columns ?

DM	Bi Jian	Jie Cai	Zheng Yin	Pian Yin	Zheng Guan	Pian Guan	Zheng Cai	Pian Cai	Shi Shen	Shang Guan
+ water	+ water	- water	- metal	+ metal	- earth	+ earth	- fire	+ fire	+ wood	- wood
- water	- water	+ water	+ metal	- metal	+ earth	- earth	+ fire	- fire	- wood	+ wood
+wood	+ wood	- wood	- water	+ water	- metal	+ metal	- earth	+ earth	+ fire	- fire
- wood	- wood	+wood	+water	- water	+ metal	- metal	+ earth	- earth	- fire	+ fire
+ fire	+ fire	- fire	- wood	+ wood	- water	+ water	- metal	+ metal	+ earth	- earth
- fire	- fire	+ fire	+wood	- wood	+ water	- water	+ metal	- metal	- earth	+ earth
+ earth	+ earth	- earth	- fire	+ fire	- wood	+ wood	- water	+ water	+ metal	- metal
- earth	- earth	+ earth	+ fire	- fire	+ wood	- wood	+ water	- water	- metal	+ metal
+ metal	+ metal	- metal	- earth	+ earth	- fire	+ fire	- wood	+ wood	+ water	- water
- metal	- metal	+ metal	+earth	- earth	+ fire	- fire	+ wood	- wood	- water	+ water

[Uma]

Hi Orange Blossom,
I understand your problem
Il y a peut être une solution mais je ne l'ai pas trouvée. Pour ma part, j'écris je corrige jusqu'à ce que ce soit à peu près d'aplomb, pas de colonne ni de trait, une solution est d'utiliser des points ou des tirets pour caler les espaces.
Voiloù

[j]

OrangeBlossom,

Thank you for the table!

[whtrader]

Did this tab yet exist ?
If yes, I will delete it.
If no, how can I make lisible rows and columns ?

DM	Bi Jian	Jie Cai	Zheng Yin	Pian Yin	Zheng Guan	Pian Guan	Zheng Cai	Pian Cai	Shi Shen	Shang Guan
+ water	+ water	- water	- metal	+ metal	- earth	+ earth	- fire	+ fire	+ wood	- wood
- water	- water	+ water	+ metal	- metal	+ earth	- earth	+ fire	- fire	- wood	+ wood
+wood	+ wood	- wood	- water	+ water	- metal	+ metal	- earth	+ earth	+ fire	- fire
- wood	- wood	+wood	+water	- water	+ metal	- metal	+ earth	- earth	- fire	+ fire
+ fire	+ fire	- fire	- wood	+ wood	- water	+ water	- metal	+ metal	+ earth	- earth
- fire	- fire	+ fire	+wood	- wood	+ water	- water	+ metal	- metal	- earth	+ earth
+ earth	+ earth	- earth	- fire	+ fire	- wood	+ wood	- water	+ water	+ metal	- metal
- earth	- earth	+ earth	+ fire	- fire	+ wood	- wood	+ water	- water	- metal	+ metal
+ metal	+ metal	- metal	- earth	+ earth	- fire	+ fire	- wood	+ wood	+ water	- water
- metal	- metal	+ metal	+earth	- earth	+ fire	- fire	+ wood	- wood	- water	+ water

Hi OrangeBlossom,

What does + Water and - Water indicate?
Does it indicate strong DM/Weak master or Yang/Yin DM Master.

Thanks.

[OrangeBlossom]

Hello whtrader

+ for yang
- for yin

the ten Gods are same for a weak or a strong Day Master but there influences are different.

if DM is yang water strong or weak, BiJian is yang water, JieCai yin water, ...

did my explanations answer your questions