Table for Tian Yi Gui Ren ( Yin / Yang)

[Ah Siong]

Hi Shi Xiang ,

Base on you Day Pillar Gui Si in the 60 Jia Zi DE table..Your DE is Wei & Wu EB
Which mean be it any effects good or bad by Wei (goat) & Wu ( horse) if found in your Bazi or by arriving LPs will be reduced.

So fire From WU only or Earth from Wei in your case will be DE which is good new for you a weak Gui DM 

But Si Fire is not favourable to you is not void..still there to give you havoc..but Si is your Gui ren hence neutralise & reduce it Bing fire on you ? I suspect..else you...must go back to your post to discuss 

May be you have another angle on how Si become your DE..?
Thanks share pls.

Regards
Siong

[lcly77]

Hi lcly77,

A...a wat is DE?

BLurr
Siong

Hi Bro Siong

DE is Death & Emptiness / Kong Wang 空亡

[samail]

Hi all,

If Si Fire is not favourable but is your Gui Ren, could it have the meaning of???? :

Gui Ren still appear except that you will not want his help or listen to his advice. You will be wary of his help.

Sam

[Shi Xiang]

Hi Ah Siong, ,
 
May be you have another angle on how Si become your DE..?
sorry,... i mistaken the Month Emptiness of Bing in Si as Death Emptiness
i got the bing in Si as Month Emptiness in Joey 10 thousand calander (page 30).
i wonder what is the meaning of month emptiness of the bing in si?

is the death emptiness is determined by the DM in the 12 growth and birth phase e.g the earthly branch in the state of ( grave(mu), extinction (jue))?
 e.g ren  DE is Chen and Si?
      Xin  DE is Mao and Yin?



Regards
Shi Xiang

[Shi Xiang]

Hi samail,

If Si Fire is not favourable but is your Gui Ren, could it have the meaning of???? :
Gui Ren still appear except that you will not want his help or listen to his advice. You will be wary of his help.
sorry samail, i don't know how to answer this question -.- , hence this might the reason why i study bazi (for)... in order to know myself better ....

as far as i can recall back,... i make decision(to recieve the help that is offered voluntary), base on my feeling usually whether it's save or not... and i accept all the help that i seek myself without futher consider,... i believe this is human nature -.-,... wonder it also can associate in bazi haha.

hope this can help u samail,

regards,
Shi Xiang

[samail]

Hi Shi Xiang,

No problem. I am also in the learning stage trying to find the correct switch to turn on the lights. 

Sam

[Ah Siong]

Hi lcly77,

Thank I know understand DE abbreviation now .

Hi Bro Sam,

Thank for your point, just learn something from you.
I shall try your point & feed back accordingly when I notice this experiences.  

Hi  Shi Xiang ,

Your reference to JY's Ten thousand calender page 30.
Month Gods & Killings (Jue Shen 月神.)
All the 5 gods are using lunar month as reference for deriving the Gods. hence Yue...month...shen..gods..

There are
1) Thriving Day 临日
2) Five Prosperity 五富
3) Month Emptiness 月空
4) Month Virtue 月德
5) Heavenly virtue 天德

Is this the table you are refering to derive your own DE
& the 5 yue shen you are refering to ?

JY's Ten thousand calender DO NOT have 60 Jia Zi D.E. table 六十甲子空亡表  

Regards
Siong

[Shi Xiang]

Hi Ah Siong,

thanks for the your reply in showing me the mistake -.- , haha,... still got a  lot to read (pai seh)

regards
shi xiang

[Ah Siong]

Hi Shi Xiang ，

like Sam says we are all here to learn & share 

By the way I don't understand JY page 30 
Once I sort it out I shall share it here again..
I Think Master JY's students will know better 

Just another correction for you  pai sey..
正月 in lunar calender is Tiger month..hence you look at the wrong month too

Regards
Siong
 

[lcly77]

Dear Bro Siong

Thanks for the explanation. If the person's Tian Yi Gui Ren is also a DE for him means what?

Dear Bro Siong

So what is the meaning if the person's Tian Yi Gui Ren is in DE?

[Shi Xiang]

  i think i should return back to the basic first...

rgds

[Ah Siong]

Hi lcly77,

This is the general summary form all the books authors published.

Tian Yi Gui Ren love to be enhanced by other supporting good stars (i.e yue de, tian de..bla bla..)
or support element to enhance it original element..(i.e say Tian yi original  is fire element..it love wood & fire element to support)

Tian Yi Gui Ren hate to be 克 刑 冲 害 all kinds of clashes EB Between Tian Yi,
or When Tian Yi is D.E., Tian Yi  is Day master's death, repose stage...
Tian Yi in this  condition fortune is reduced, got to work like a dog in for whole life, & worst case is 祸 ！(unfortunate，get into trouble )
The  祸 is just 祸 ..not 灾祸..(not calamity).

So I think best is to Open up Shi Xiang case & Study..to see if it conforms to theory  

This is my own judgement, we must see the Yin & Yang..everything got to fall back to rTaiji (relativity not absolute)..that where Yi Ching is derived from the simple Yin & Yang..hence come all the many theory ,theory & theory  

Here go my long story sure make you sleepy   hahaha

If you have -ve$10 & I have -ve $ 20...I am poorer than you. hence You are yang & I am yin.
John has -ve $ 5,   John compares with you..You become poorer Hence John is Yang & you become Yin.

If you have $10 & I have $ 20...I am richer than you, hence you are yin & I am yang.
John has $ 5,   John compares with you..You become yang now as John is poorer than you he become Yin

All theory should have Relativity..Albert Estein copy Chinese metaphysic theory  
Today I copy his theory  

Now this fellow chart sure died...like this who care wat wat the tian yi it is  sure better than died Right ?
Now this fellow chart very the GooD..than the tian yi come must be of the best Quality   to boost the chart else it bring the chart lower.

I am not a good teacher
Pardon me
This my 2 cents

I think the best is practical case study else we become librarians to our our collection of books   like me

Regards
Siong

[Ah Siong]

Hi Shi Xiang ,

Wat you has being doing is correct... we must not always basic ABC sure you drop out Bored ...
Venture a bit to next level of theory.

Sometime just throw a duster out...see so many things people throw back at you...Ho Say liao better than to study blindly.

But More important must be clear..don't mix BAzi Star with ziwei star with fengshui star till you know wat is wat..
If before you figure wat is wat than you sure become ke kiang...short circuited..

So when you do Bazi...can venture in this Bazi domain..If you want to learn Ziwei forget everything about Bazi & re learn Ziwei lingual than you sure 平平安安..learn correctly

I was lost in the metaphysic forest before
to do myself study...

If I just do ABC sure lost the drive to venture to the other theory

Regards
Siong

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[Shi Xiang]

Greetings Siong,

Thanks for your guidence  .

regards