Theory about combination and transformation

[Calvin Yap (aka learnbazi)]

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[Bazisuanming]

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[Cyril]

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[Rhizome]

Do the residual qi/sub-roots serve any purpose in combinations..I mean, are there combinations tht utilise sub-roots other than main root?

Or are these sub-roots only serve as part of decoding of Ten Gods representation in a chart?

[Sam]

This reminds me of the time correction thingy all over again - a higher door is opening up  Thank you  

[jacsal]

Can combination and transformation happen when the 2 elements are not side by side? Say, a Xu in Year pillar and a Mao in Hour pillar, would they still combine?

[Rhizome]

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Hi Rhizome,
The month pillar has no fixed predominant qi.

The idea of fixed predominant qi is in my personal opinion based on the following reasons:
1) not understanding the 2-sided nature of the month EB
(see also what I wrote about seeing the HHS and the predominant qi in the EB from two angles, depending on the point of reference in my 4^th post in this thread.)
2) Believing that the Month EB and other EB are to be seen in a similar way.
3) many masters teaching students in the west are still thinking that their students lack the capacity to understand more complicated issues.

According to the system I use, Hai has HHS Wu,Jia,Ren. This means that if Wu is the predominant qi, which is the case for approx. the first 2 days of the Hai month water transformation will not happen.

I find this factor fascinating, esp. when it comes to determining the Month qi of day DM born. I've been experimenting ever since I came across Vincent Koh's format.  IMHO, the predominant qi on the day DM was born is also a key to determining the structure of his chart, therefore it is an important factor. 

Bzsm, the Wu in your Hai EB - is it based on taking into consideration tht on the day DM born overlapping Wu qi frm previous (Xu) EB phase, or transitional time loop before Ren's turn? Sorry, am not familiar with lunar calendar conversions..

[Jlim]

Do the residual qi/sub-roots serve any purpose in combinations..I mean, are there combinations tht utilise sub-roots other than main root?

There is a so-called hidden combination between Wu Horse and Hai Pig, where Wu contains Ding-Ji and Hai contains Ren-Jia (not using Bazisuanming's distribution here), and we note the Ding+Ren and Ji+Jia Stem Pairings.  In this case, Wu Horse and Hai Pig is required to be adjacent, since we're involving sub-roots here.  Sub-roots have rather feeble Qi, so we can forget any combination if these branches are not next to each other.

But I don't really read into hidden combinations nowadays. Some say that if the involved element is in the day Branch (spouse palace) then there's indication for 'hidden love'.

[Rhizome]

There is a so-called hidden combination between Wu Horse and Hai Pig, where Wu contains Ding-Ji and Hai contains Ren-Jia (not using Bazisuanming's distribution here), and we note the Ding+Ren and Ji+Jia Stem Pairings.  In this case, Wu Horse and Hai Pig is required to be adjacent, since we're involving sub-roots here.  Sub-roots have rather feeble Qi, so we can forget any combination if these branches are not next to each other.

But I don't really read into hidden combinations nowadays. Some say that if the involved element is in the day Branch (spouse palace) then there's indication for 'hidden love'.

Just speculating, ya - I think Ding+Ren in Wu-Hai can apply (under certain conditions) but not the sub-root, unless thr's a way we can zoom right into anticipating month/day of occurence ...then we may be able to trace the dominant qi - if it's nt the main root tht's dominating but a sub-root, then we'll hve to consider if the sub-root has any interaction. (am I even making sense to myself   )

The only argument to the above speculation is the ques of sub-root strength.. just wondering - if sub roots also stand to dominate by turns why shld they remain as sub-root by formula (EB) settings (?)  

But hey..! we digressed    The discussion abt dominant qi was based on Month pillar in the first place, nothing to do with other pillar EBs for Month EB stands to hve a (rippling) effect on decoding factors.

[Rhizome]

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As I understand that Peter Leung is using his own technique that he incorporated together with conventional and blindman.

BTW, in blindman, transformation is not evaluated. Combination is a form of action by the bazi. the outcome is depending on what's element being combine..

Thanks

I tried Peter Leung's % calculation - just made my head spin  more

[Calvin Yap (aka learnbazi)]

I tried Peter Leung's % calculation - just made my head spin  more

That is his conventional method. He is teaching a different method now...

[Rhizome]

relic,

I am interested to know more. Could you add me in. Thank you very much.

Think Weikee gonna offer red wine soon (yammm..senngg)

[Sam]

Oh pray, pls tell more.

[Cyril]

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[Rhizome]

That is his conventional method. He is teaching a different method now...

Conventional already spinning  if now more complex level   

[Calvin Yap (aka learnbazi)]

Can combination and transformation happen when the 2 elements are not side by side? Say, a Xu in Year pillar and a Mao in Hour pillar, would they still combine?

Depends on who you are asking and you might get different answers.. There are:

a) Yes, it will combine and transform
b) Yes, it will combine but not transform
c) Depends on whether the Month Pilar or Luck Pillar is supportive of the combination
d) No, they don't combine, hence don't transform

Thanks

[Rhizome]

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As long there is a combination of the main qi of the branches, it is a combination, whether near or far.

Quahbkc, tht means even when not adjacent? Is tht wht they call 'distant combo'?  

[Cyril]

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[Calvin Yap (aka learnbazi)]

Conventional already spinning  if now more complex level   

Suppose to be more simplify using Blindman method. This is because Blindman method don't evaluate strong or weak. The problem with conventional method is to find out whether the DM is strong or weak - there are so many theories to do it..

[Cyril]

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