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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2009, 06:12:32 PM »
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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2009, 06:45:29 PM »
I think I have had this Liu Hai affecting my life in last LP.
It probably was affecting most on relationship matters as it was Yin-si on spouse palace.

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #212 on: August 11, 2009, 02:24:08 AM »
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At least I don't try to clone all other EBs to become One Element on all EBs & HS when I try combo = transformation  :P  and left all 5 options with the 'You' EBs menghayun thr for poor Caocao to try to understand. ~2funny


This is not my own method.  :P Whether Bzsm method is true or not is still questionable. Of course if you want to enlightenment me with your creative thought about Fire is very welcome.  ~2funny

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #213 on: August 11, 2009, 02:37:17 AM »
Hi Bzsm, just reconfirming: is this referring to Yin-Wu-Xu with Wu EB as part of the frame or is it a diff. formation involving Ding HS?
Hi Rhizome,
I believe bzum is referring to An He, or also known as Silent Push.  Some school believe that silent Wu is present when there Yin Xu, but other school believe Ding must be present for the presence of Silent Wu.

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #214 on: August 11, 2009, 02:40:46 AM »
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Re: Liu Hai
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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #216 on: August 11, 2009, 08:20:52 AM »
you are all welcome to ask if you want about this yin-si harm that I believe I lived through in my last LP and probably affected my relationship matters to not work out so good. how would you think it would be described? I can also show you this thread here for this study;

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php?topic=1377.0

.....IF you are interested in real case studies that is, and not only theories.


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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #217 on: August 13, 2009, 03:22:26 AM »
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Most masters teaching to a western audience teach either that Liu Hai can be neglected, or that its major impact is in relation to relationships and health.

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Hi BZSM,

As you say the masters teaching to a western audience teach mainly/only 10 god system. Does the Liu Hai have minor effect in 10 god system while it has more importance in the other systems that you mentioned?

Thank you very much for sharing... ~14~

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #218 on: August 13, 2009, 06:06:16 AM »
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Principles used in interpretation of Liu Hai

- general meaning of Liu Hai
- pillar involved
- gods involved
- elements involved
- direction of injury, i.e. from inside to outside or outside to inside
- other interaction of EB involved
- Shen Sha which are involved
- Qiphases

Sorry for my late question...
I'm not sure that I understand correctly the direction of injury:
direction of injury, i.e. from inside to outside or outside to inside

from inside to outside - does it mean the direction from hour pillar to year pillar?
 Oo?

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #219 on: December 16, 2009, 01:21:38 PM »
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Sorry mistyped your member number  :-[
Now you should be able to read all Hidden Texts given by me  :D

Hi bzsm,

Might I also be included in the list for viewing the hidden text?


Also, I previously learnt that combinations/transformations have precedence over clashes.
So harms precede combinations/transformations? What about destructions?

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #220 on: December 16, 2009, 05:40:50 PM »

Also, I previously learnt that combinations/transformations have precedence over clashes.
So harms precede combinations/transformations? What about destructions?


I realize the contradiction for branches. A harm and a combination implies that there is a clash and combination about one branch, so that makes sense.
But what about the "precedences" for destructions? Do they behave in the same way, preventing transformations and leaving a "hole", or do clashes and combinations mitigate them?

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Re: Liu Hai
« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2010, 02:23:30 PM »
before reply / it shows 'u need t reply t see da topic' thanks for the share.. i learn many thing in tis forum.. awesome than fourpillars.ning.com.. really.. .