What is Qi?

[Rhizome]

Hi Sam,

I am not sure about the various types of air purifiers available in the market but negative ion generators does help. I have one at home 

http://www.negativeiongenerators.com/ [nofollow]

Hi Qbkc

Thks for sharing here.  Wht do you think of salt lamps - do you consider their negative ions also contribute to air clearing?

Rhiz

[Cyril]

Hi Qbkc

Thks for sharing here.  Wht do you think of salt lamps - do you consider their negative ions also contribute to air clearing?

Rhiz

Hi Rhizome,

I am not familiar with salt lamp. Anything that generates negative ions will be good. A cheap simple solution is a small water feature (fountain) powered by wall socket.

[twinklestar]

Hi Rhizome,

I am not familiar with salt lamp. Anything that generates negative ions will be good. A cheap simple solution is a small water feature (fountain) powered by wall socket.

Hi quahbkc,

I have a qns to ask..As wat u say that water fountain can help to clean negative “Qi”. Wat if the owner of bazi unfavourable element is “water”. Can tis water fountain indirectly affect his home fengshui? Is affect more to good or bad?

Thanks.

[Cyril]

Hi quahbkc,

I have a qns to ask..As wat u say that water fountain can help to clean negative “Qi”. Wat if the owner of bazi unfavourable element is “water”. Can tis water fountain indirectly affect his home fengshui? Is affect more to good or bad?

Thanks.

Hi twinklestar,

Water placement is an important aspect of Liqi fengshui and it has to be done with careful consideration. For me, I have to be careful where I place my negative ionizer. Also, in this aspect about water fountain and favorable/unfavorable element for bazi, I don't subscribe to this belief. People like JY will say if water is unfavourable, will you not bathe or drink water?

[twinklestar]

Hi twinklestar,

Water placement is an important aspect of Liqi fengshui and it has to be done with careful consideration. For me, I have to be careful where I place my negative ionizer. Also, in this aspect about water fountain and favorable/unfavorable element for bazi, I don't subscribe to this belief. People like JY will say if water is unfavourable, will you not bathe or drink water?

Hi quahbkc,

Lolz. Yes.. U are right.. 

[ivancen]

gosh! excellent reading! I've been wanting to find links between modern science and metaphysics but my limited knowledge in metaphysics makes it impossible.
This article opened up the breadth of metaphysical study indeed! thanks mr quah!

I've some thoughts after reading, in my limited knowledge of FS, mountains are said to be emitters of Qi, favourable ones being lush and green. Perhaps this lends additional support to mr quah's theory. afterall, green forested mountains give out -ive ions while to barren, rocky ones to avoid do not. Makes some sense to me. I'm so happy to discover this site!

[Fabsinth88]

Thanks for the very interesting read here! It's very similar to certain crystal healing and western esoteric concepts that i'm familiar with! Finally a Qi concept that isn't abound with superstition! Kudos!

[ivancen]

hi Fab, however as I mentioned i think in the other thread, I'm still not totally convinced Qi is ONLY ions. Maybe ions is part of Qi consideration, but dun look like it's the total package. Reason is quite alot of FS dos and don'ts do not seem to have any link with ions. Even those that do seems slightly illogical to me. Like why -ive ions (water) should appear in some parts of the house and not others. If it's good, and of course used in moderation (volume), I do not see why it should not be in every room. Just my thought.

[Tony in Harmony]

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Kudos! Cyril!

Just dropped in after a long break and came across your wonderful contribution.

[Tony in Harmony]

Thank you for such an interesting article.  Just wondering, so does that mean we can manipulate 'qi' in the modern sense by buying those negative ion purifier?
How about those negative ion clothings (which is supposedly used to attract negative ions to you when you wear them) ?

Hello cnyelie,

You may manipulate Qi better by doing Qigong yourself... you can become the organic 'generator' of good Qi...

[cnyelie]

Hello cnyelie,

You may manipulate Qi better by doing Qigong yourself... you can become the organic 'generator' of good Qi...

Haha...unfortunately working in the morning...so can't join the Qigong or tai chi
group near my house. Thanks for the suggestion.

[fsa]

Hi,

"Qi are ions. Period.”

"(Qi) it's like what is said in the book "the science of getting rich' by wallace d. wattle.”

IMO, both showed only a partial understanding of qi, we need both the "scientific" (matter/vessel) and the "philosophical" (energy/spirit) to "grasp" (come to terms with) the qi.

“To understand it solely as “potentiality” would be wrong, just as it cannot be translated simply as “matter”.”

These are Edmund Ryden's words and I have quoted his full explanation of what is qi in my blog, perhaps his view and my comments can provide an alternative understanding of the subject.

fsa

[Paivi]

Hi fsa,

Nice to see you here - I joined only a few days ago.

I am not getting deep into the subject here, but would like to point out a couple of things.

First of all, the Chinese have tried to find out (scientifically) what qi is.  At the moment it seems that it is largely considered something that contains at least magnetism, or electromagnetism, but also something more.

The other point is: the word qi is used in so many different contexts (for example in TCM) that it cannot possibly be defined as one single thing.

Päivi

[Cyril]

Hi Howard,

Welcome to the forum. 

So Qi is both matter and energy; it is the seen and the unseen, the form and the formless, the manifested and the un-manifested, the tangible and the intangible, etc. From what we can see, we can contemplate what we cannot see, from we can cannot see, we can also contemplate its potential manifestations.

If a powerful microscope is used, the "unseen" Qi (ions) can be seen. People generally tend to classify the "unseen" as something the naked eye cannot see but in reality, it is present and it exist.

The Chinese made the assumption that everything has Qi and everything that has Qi has Yin and Yang as well. If there is one predictable outcome then there is also many un-predictable counterparts running side by side, so if  Science can give us a predictable answer, then Non-Science like Art, its complementary opposite, will always give us more than one  “non-answer” answer to the same question, because to the Chinese, even a constant is constantly changing and evolving (“the only constant is change”) and Qi is often used to express this idea, hence some scholar would also equate Qi with the Dao, which is the Way and not the Destination.

The Chinese are right about Qi having Yin and Yang (= positive and negative charge) and constantly changing (= ions are always moving).

Personally, I like this idea of defining “Qi” as “potentiality combines with matter”, which is another way of expressing the Yin/Yang duality, and in the book, “The Tao of Architecture”, Amos Ih Tiao Chang ended his essay with these words, ....

“To understand it solely as “potentiality” would be wrong, just as it cannot be translated simply as “matter”.”

The 2 quotes above show why men today are still circling around, trying their best to understand what is Qi, just like what our forefathers did. What I wrote about Qi will hopefully give people another dimension to think and ponder over.

[Cyril]

First of all, the Chinese have tried to find out (scientifically) what qi is.  At the moment it seems that it is largely considered something that contains at least magnetism, or electromagnetism, but also something more.

Hi Paivi,

Qi does not contain magnetism or electromagnetism but rather Qi is affected by magnetism or electromagnetism.

The other point is: the word qi is used in so many different contexts (for example in TCM) that it cannot possibly be defined as one single thing.

Yes, Qi is being used in many contexts but fundamentally this "single thing" is the source for all its manifestations in many other forms.