ZWDS Glossary

[Mulberry]

Mulberry dont ask to me, why ? they are in these specific places, i would like to understand futher as you.

  Ok, I won’t ask why! …. May be latter …

But wow thank you so much for the links, Dominique. I know there are many resources in this forum but I do not seem to be able to navigate my way through the massive data. Any suggestion? How on earth did you find what you are looking for in this forum?

[Uma]

Hi Mulbery and friends,

Ok, I won’t ask why! …. May be latter …

But wow thank you so much for the links, Dominique. I know there are many resources in this forum but I do not seem to be able to navigate my way through the massive data. Any suggestion? How on earth did you find what you are looking for in this forum?

Try the function search and be patient to navigate in this happy forum.
As i was in "garage", i have trying to surf on the net for research, because i have at this time some questions in suspend, and i have reading here and there from links, then i find some articles from Master Tony Tan about Zwds, then i have feel, it was a good way to continue.

One of the fundamental question : How these three cycles are articulate

Cycle of Jupiter/year
Cycle of Lucun/Boshi
Cycle of Longevity/12 stages

Then it's good to ask questions
Best regards
Dominique

[Uma]

Hi Mulberry and friends,
You could read the beautifull work done, step by step, by Annutara...

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,2822.0.html

If someone got some answers to my question above, it will be with a lot of pleasure i will read him.
If you need some particular calculation for specific energies, maybe i could help you.
Cheers

[Mulberry]

One of the fundamental question : How these three cycles are articulate

Cycle of Jupiter/year
Cycle of Lucun/Boshi
Cycle of Longevity/12 stages

Hi Dominique,

Although I cannot answer your fundamental question (too deep for me) but my first observation is that:
1. Cycle of Jupiter/year: Jupiter is always at the branch of the current year. For example, in Zi Year, Tai Sui (Jupiter) is at Zi palace. Chou Year; Tai Sui is at Chou palace.
2. Cycle of Lucun/Boshi: Lu Cun is always at the branch that has the dominant year stem. For example, in Jia Year, Lu Cun is at Yin palace. Yi Year, Lu Cun is at Mao palace. Bo Shi is always in the same place as Lu Cun.
3. Cycle of Longevity/12 stages: Longevity always starts where the element is born. For example, for 2nd Water Classification, Longevity is at Shen, 3rd Wood classification, Longevity at Hai, etc.

I agree with you, it would be interesting to know the reason behind this rule.

[Mulberry]

If you need some particular calculation for specific energies, maybe i could help you.

Hi Again,

Taking on your offer above, could you please show me how to calculate the place for these two stars
1. Treats/Cook = Tian Chu = 天廚
2. Sickness, Illness = Tian Yue = 天月

This question is originally asked by The One at this thread http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3527.msg46277/topicseen.html#msg46277.

Thanks 

[Uma]

Hi Mulberry,

When if possible dont worry to ask me something

There is a calculation for Tian Yue (Thiên Viêt/Médaille) and Tian Kui (Thiên Khôi/Lauréat)
In Zwds as i know they form a cultural group by themself, but they could also be associate with others energies to form specifics groups.

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3437.msg37949.html#msg37949

Thiên Tru ( Régal du Ciel, Cook, Tian Chu) is calculate with the HS of the Year.

I give you three energies in vietnamese which are calculate by a same way.

HS          Luu Ha (Water)      Thiên Tru (Earth)           Van Tinh (Fire)

Jia            You                         Si                                Si
Yi             Xu                           Wu                              Wu
Bing          Wei                         Zi                                Shen
Ding          Chen                       Si                                You
Wu           Si                            Wu                              Shen
Ji             Wu                          Shen                            You
Geng        Shen                        Yin                               Hai
Xin           Mao                         Wu                              Zi
Ren          Hai                          You                              You
Gui           Yin                          Xu                                Mao


For the time we could profit, my computer is right... i will answer when it's possible for calculations of energies glossary belove


Two others energies :

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3447.msg37764.html#msg37764

Two others :

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3848.msg45088.html#msg45088


Pass good time
Cheers

[Mulberry]

There is a calculation for Tian Yue (Thiên Viêt/Médaille) and Tian Kui (Thiên Khôi/Lauréat)

Thanks Dominique, your kindness is appreciated.

However, I think, the Tian Yue that I am after looks like this in Chinese character 天月 which is different from the Tian Yue that you have described which looks like this 天鉞. The first has negative connotation while the second positive (again, I think).

I also have difficulty in separating between stars that sounds very similar that is why I put a lot of effort to find it's chinese character  just to make sure which star is being analysed.

The again, I might be totally wrong  very confusing!

[Uma]

Hi,
It's why i gave ZWDS energies in Vietnamese, as i learnt, we are in research about translation and sense, it's why i dont want to speak so much about their use, just calculations which i'am sure, because my past vietnamese master Vo Van Em want to transmit them. I'am just a learner.
Thiên Viet could be difficult in some place mixed with some particular energies, the few i know. Better to be sure of the translation. Zwds is so complex...

It's a chinese proverb i known :
"Plus large la face, plus large le dos"

Cheers


PS : What is : 天鉞 i cant read chinese !

If someone could translate vietnamese language, in this link the person offer us, some basic traditional books of ZWDS freeware (mixed with little energies) => see Thu Viên

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3705.msg43288.html#msg43288

This one could help you

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,963.msg46378.html#msg46378

[Mulberry]

PS : What is : 天鉞 i cant read chinese !

Neither can I  !  The book I am reading gives the relevant chinese character, that is why I know what it looks like  otherwise ....

Angel II = Tian Yue = 天鉞
Sickness, Ill = Tian Yue = 天月

Both pinyin are Tian Yue 

[Uma]

Hi Mulberry get quiet, time and patience...
Zwds it's a long way of knowledge... Myself i have a lot of to learn, again and again...
Have you seen the links for the place of little energies
Cheers

[Mulberry]

Yes I have seen the links...no luck.

Patience. ………… All in good time!

[Uma]

Hi Mulberry,
Did you try the calculator from this link to your chart, care to check it for man or for woman, compare it with chart as you know well to avoid mistakes.

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,963.msg46378.html#msg46378

Then, you will find easely with vietnamese translation of glossary, and calculations about the places of energies for vietnamese persons (Sickness "Benh" is in cycle from Jupiter of the Year, and "Médaille" which form a group with "Lauréat", and others groups also... when it mixed).

Good research and learning for all, we will arrived with the time, it's not so easy to deal with so much languages, for me too, and we must care about mistakes, i have seen it so much by experiences, then we must get it slowly (as i think).
PS : You will care "Mars and Tonnerre" are not calculate in a same way for vietamese and chinese methods...
Cheers

[Mulberry]

Hi Dominique, I found it 

It depends on month of birth. I have listed here http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,3527.msg46563.html#msg46563.

Thank you, thank you 

[Uma]

Hi Mulberry,
In my country it said " L'union fait la force " , i have seen sometimes differents methods for calculations . Thank's to you to translate when you can it seems to be "Sickness", same which the calculations i got from Jupiter.

In my way of learning with the month you could calculate :

(I give you in french translation made by Vo Van Em himself => see glossary)

Moon of birth : 1, 2, 3...


Aides de gauche ; Appuis de droite ; Punition ; Robe et Rêve ; Délivrance du Ciel ; Délivrance de la Terre

1 : Chen ; Xu ; You ; Chou ; Shen ; Wei
2 : Si ; You ; Xu ; Yin ; You ; Shen
3 : Wu ; Shen ; Hai ; Mao ; Xu ; You
4 : Wei ; Wei ; Zi ; Chen ; Hai ; Xu
5 : Shen ; Wu ; Chou ; Si ; Zi ; Hai
6 : You ; Si ; Yin ; Wu ; Chou ; Zi
7 : Xu ; Chen ; Mao ; Wei ; Yin ; Chou
8 : Hai ; Mao ; Chen ; Shen ; Mao ; Yin
9 : Zi ; Yin ; Si ; You ; Chen ; Mao
10 : Chou ; Chou ; Wu ; Xu ; Si ; Chen
11 : Yin ; Zi ; Wei ; Hai ; Wu ; Si
12 : Mao ; Hai ; Shen ; Zi ; Wei ; Wu

Happy to read and learn from you
Cheers

[Mulberry]

No, no, happy to read and learn from you, you know more than I do and I do not have Master Vo Van Em to learn from!

I still have the following stars which I do not know how to calculate and place  , may be you can enlight me:

From glossary No:
20 Duong_Phu ; Immeuble ; Building ; Duong Phu   
21 Giai_Than ; Déesse Délivrance ; Delivery God    ;Giai Than   
40 Luu_Ha ; Fleuve Coulant   ; River ; Luu Ha   
41 Luu_Nien ; Etudes ; Studies ; Luu Nien   
50 Phuc_Duc ; Vertu des Ancêtres ; Ancestor virtues ; Phuc Duc
56 Quoc_An ; Sceau d' Etat   ; Seal ; Quoc An
99 Triet ; B/C  Barré/Coupé ; S/B Severed Bar ; Bang Kong