The Meaning of the Indirect and Direct Spirits.

[devadog]

The Wang Qi for this period 8 is in the NE coming from the SW(In Liu Fa its coming from the NE)
In period 9 the Wang Qi is in the South.

Hmmmm...so if I understand correctly, in 2023 I should start a company that demolishes old pools, ponds and fountains and design/builds new ones for everyone's North.

So this is how we make money with feng shui! 

Robert

[akaO]

  Maybe we should work together in 2023:
ODog's for all your designer fountains and pools.........put your pool where the Qi is...........

aka.O

[Banned: acemundo]

HI akao,

After period 9, that is period 1, the direct spirit is in the north?

If it is, can the north see mountain and south see water then?

[akaO]

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[Banned: acemundo]

Hi akao,

thanks for the enlightenment.  Can I say that this direct and indirect spriit rule is an application in XK FLying Stars only?

first the breakdown of 9 periods in Xuan Kong FLying Star is different from Xuan Kong Da Gua. 

2ndly, i am wondering for someone practising 8 Mansion or XKDG, do they apply this direct and indirect spirit rule.  or is it purely applied on external environment based on the period calculation of XK FLying Stars while 8 Mansion and XKDG are purely for indoor?

[akaO]

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[redhawk]

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[Banned: acemundo]

hi akao,

but between XKflying stars and XKDG, there is difference in periods.....

under XKFS, all periods are 20 year long, while under XKDG, certain periods are shorter than 20 year while certain are longer.  i was wondering how do we reconcile those?

[moonchin]

Ace,

Thats a good question.  I too would like to know.  Anyone kind enough to enlighten us?


moonchin

[akaO]

Hi Redhawk,

Could you say something about how ling shen and sheng shen is applied between xkdg and xkfs?

I'm under the impression that xkfs is applied when water or mountain are located in the each 45 degree 8-gua pie chart relative to center of house.

While in xkdg, the water is measured where it exits or enter, or mountain is measure from its peak or incoming dragon relative to door facing in 5.98 degrees in 64 gua.

So if xkdg and xkfs has conflicting ling shen and zheng shen, what is done in that situation?

I don't know.I am not the right person to ask.......I think you know more than me.
Yes.Also the measurement is not unfamiliar in Fei Xing(I am not talking about the 5.98 degr)
They already have conflicting Ling/Zheng Shen.

Acemundo

but between XKflying stars and XKDG, there is difference in periods.....

under XKFS, all periods are 20 year long, while under XKDG, certain periods are shorter than 20 year while certain are longer.  i was wondering how do we reconcile those?

I did not say they are the same,they are using the same concept.
Yes.Not only difference in periods also in Ling/Zheng Shen(Wang Qi for this period is in the SW,for "flying stars " its in the NE.)and difference in application,they are Xuan Kong but different systems.

Like i said they are different systems.

akaO

[Banned: acemundo]

akao,

Thanks.  I didn't mean to suggest they are different.  But what I intended to ask is how can we apply them under each school?  because for the same mountain we see, it may be auspicious under the period of XKFS while not so auspicious under XKDG period.  So to the fengshui enthusiasts like us, we keep wondering which school's concept to apply.

I think this is also something like what redhawk is asking. 

[akaO]

Hi Acemundo,

But what I intended to ask is how can we apply them under each school?  because for the same mountain we see, it may be auspicious under the period of XKFS while not so auspicious under XKDG period.  So to the fengshui enthusiasts like us, we keep wondering which school's concept to apply.

I think this is also something like what redhawk is asking.

So to the fengshui enthusiasts like us, we keep wondering which school's concept to apply.

Yes,me too.But wondering is not enough you should look at both systems where they come from and try to research why they are working or not or maybe on other level.
And Should we really apply them under each school?

I think depends on the situation what,when and how to use.....They are different systems can be applied for different situations....I think.Like i said before,I am not the right person to give you the anwers.

akaO

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[moonchin]

Aiya, Akao,

everything done usng any FS method is towards trying to generate Sheng Qi, la. 

I'm still anxious to see if anyone with the knowledge, who can kindly enlighten us on how to reconcile the difference in timing as put forward by Ace.  Because, from my little knowledge of XKDG, seems like the Ling/Zheng Shen was originally a XKDG concept and method, being borrowed by XKFS to use. 

Therefore, if this method of Ling/Zheng  Shen was originally an XKDG method, then using it in XKFS would incur a time  difference anomaly when there is changing of period because the XKFS and XKDG have  differing number of years in their "periods". 

Can anyone enlighten us?  many thanks.

cheers,
moonchin

[akaO]

Hi Moonchin,

everything done usng any FS method is towards trying to generate Sheng Qi, la.

Yes,I know that and you know that.........but it was meant for people who are not aware of that concept.......i am talking about the basic.

Because, from my little knowledge of XKDG, seems like the Ling/Zheng Shen was originally a XKDG concept and method, being borrowed by XKFS to use. 

Therefore, if this method of Ling/Zheng  Shen was originally an XKDG method, then using it in XKFS would incur a time  difference anomaly when there is changing of period because the XKFS and XKDG have  differing number of years in their "periods".

Yes possible.
The period 5....how they try to fit it into the system.

'm still anxious to see if anyone with the knowledge, who can kindly enlighten us on how to reconcile the difference in timing as put forward by Ace.

Yes,me too.
how to reconcile the difference of taking the Wang Qi in?

akaO