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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 09:41:14 AM »
From my current research, the si hua and san he system can be integrated to read about the chart holder's perception/interaction of people around him/her (according to context of interaction and level of relationship). The setting of Taiji and reading of changes/influences from the Si Hua can also be interpreted accordingly. I found that the suppression or enhancement of the Si Hua(s) are strongly influenced by Feng Shui.
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 12:30:22 PM »
Hi friends,
I'am interesting by this topic, but as you know i learnt at first with vietnamese system. I have see than chinese astrologers are accurate with Hua. I dont know your schools... I just can say what i know, vietnamese astrologer use Hua at first for Natal chart, then to Decade, Year, Month and Day when you find it in palace or in period. As you said above Hua, they have a regard to opposite palace. But if you find it beside a domain, could be mixed with condition of place like alliage or trigone, you see it's a little bit different, it's true particulary in Natal Chart. Vietnamese take care of element of Branch for Palace, Element of Stars and also of Parities, Palace and Stars.
Happy to learn with you ! My problem sometimes is to ordonate all these parameters.
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2009, 11:35:54 PM »
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2009, 12:08:20 AM »
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2009, 05:28:18 AM »
Hi Dominique. Those are 'the San he' techniques, Fly star techniques from what I know mostly origins from taiwan.
Taiwan gotten it from China during the communist war. Everyone was running out of china and scores of books, knowledge and information was brought into nearby countries like Taiwan, Japan and South East Asia. Thats well Taiwan is a good place to learn metaphysics. Problem only you need to know chinese.
And I think you haven't understand the basic for 4hua. (from our corresponding)
I hope to do a write out on 4hua, but no promise. We see how it goes...
Another day in our quest for greater knowledge.

Hi Laphard, i agree with you, you got another point of view to explain Huas. It's a very good complement for me, very precious, just an add. As i try to said above, it's just the way i have learnt for vietnamese branch, not for give you some lesson, just to share my own experience. I need to add i was in first step of knowledge when my master pass away.
As it's possible with my bad understanding of english, i had note your counsels and informations, very preciously. But it's very difficult for me to give a right feeback with words, another problem for me...
Your description of Hua Ji with both side, as something we must overcome, goes in the same sense as i felt. Then the proposition of cure by fengshui as tald by Capriken is ok for me ; add to the strength of the person to pass over the karmic difficulties ; that the challenge.
To begin by the palace where is the HS of the year of birth to derive Huas was also very coherent, and then..
I hope you will give me some other good counsels, as i said here it's impossible to find chinese literature ; english books from Asia are difficult to find also...
Good thougts to Zhendao, Capricorn, Xun and friends
Tks again
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2009, 09:02:41 AM »
I am a friend of the fat Laphard, and I know only bits of ZWDS lol. Thank for mentioning me. :>

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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2009, 09:24:20 AM »
Hi Zhendao,
Friends of my friends are my friend.
Who knows ?
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2009, 08:05:26 PM »
My feeling is the same, although I have no facts to back it up.
May I know the data you based on?

I have been observing the bio-chemistry, haemo, and urine chemistry tests of my mother since 2000. She is a diabetic (hypo), gout, hypertension, and kidney patient with only 4 valves functioning, as well as a 1mm growth pressing on her pituitary gland. Thus we have to monitor her levels of creatinine (higher means no good; too much = dialysis required) and glucose (within levels = good; too little = need to take medication to raise blood sugar levels) in blood.

In early July 2007, after she returned from Vietnam, her creatinine level suddenly shot up from 2.00 to 2.61, and her legs swelled up to about 10%. After taking the medication to flush out the excessive water, she was discharged a week later. She watched her diet and cut down on protein intake to maximum 500g of fish daily.

She picked up meditation and Quantum Touch in late 2007 / early 2008 and practiced it regularly (once daily for about 1 hr). She also went for brisk-walks every Sunday morning. She did her half-yearly check-up in Jan 2008 and to the doctors' surprise, her creatinine level had dropped from 2.61 to 1.72. The doctors cut down her medication and reduced it to the minimal of 50mg of Hyzaar (to control the uric acid as she had gout too) as compared to the norms of 100mg. Tobumide was reduced from 500mg x2 to 250mg x2. Allopurinol of 100g to 50mg.

Although she watched her diet after the checkup in Jan 2008 and her creatinine levels shot back up to 2.01 in April 2008; it rose to 2.07 in November 2008. Doctors termed it as the "aging process" and "deterioration".

She got adventurous in 2009 as she decided to resume a "normal" diet and stopped all brisk walks as she was very busy with work. In June 2009 of this year, she did her routine half-yearly check-up and her creatinine level was back up to 2.50, raising alarm bells. We invited my Master to audit our place and to our surprise all the people in the house was suppressed by inauspicious energies; luckily it would not cause accidents as the inauspicious energy was mild. He mentioned that the best he could implement was two words, "Ping An" (Peace/Safety). We did Feng Shui interventions in July 2009 and just recently in December 2009, her creatinine was down to 2.22. The weird thing was that her glucose level was within the normal regions even though she fasted (without medication). Furthermore, her haemoglobin counters raised by 0.4, which was a good sign as kidney patients were afraid of low blood count. All this without any dietary restrictions nor cardiovascular exercise; just through daily meditation, QT, and the Feng Shui intervention in July 2009. There was something that was not positive, which was her uric acid level jumped from 7.7 to 10.8. We could not understand why until she admitted that she stopped taking her Hyzaar since June 2009. Thus her doctors recommended her to resume the 50mg of Hyzaar. As of now I am asking my mother to embark on a TCM journey to help her organs resume back to its functioning levels; without the help of drugs that impact her liver and kidneys in the long-term.

As I look back at her tests results and analyzed the influence of Tai Sui and the dynamic ZWDS charts, I begin to wonder if the converse, riding and taking in auspicious energy, holds true for great health and harmony.

Although this is purely an anecdotal and solitary case, which does not fit in the "scientific methods of statistical research". I am happy that it works.
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2009, 10:48:26 PM »
All this without any dietary restrictions nor cardiovascular exercise; just through daily meditation, QT, and the Feng Shui intervention in July 2009. There was something that was not positive, which was her uric acid level jumped from 7.7 to 10.8. We could not understand why until she admitted that she stopped taking her Hyzaar since June 2009. Thus her doctors recommended her to resume the 100mg of Hyzaar. As of now I am asking my mother to embark on a TCM journey to help her organs resume back to its functioning levels; without the help of drugs that impact her liver and kidneys in the long-term.

As I look back at her tests results and analyzed the influence of Tai Sui and the dynamic ZWDS charts, I begin to wonder if the converse, riding and taking in auspicious energy, holds true for great health and harmony.

Hi Capriken,

Although I'm not familiar with neither meditation nor QT (Quantum Touch), thanks for the inspiring story!  ~O0
Cannot agree more with the side effects of drugs, so minimizing drugs to just the Hyzaar for uric acid is a very good approach.

Generally, I am very much in support for TCM approach, and for minimizing drugs just for the reason that you mentioned above.
But I am not against Western drugs at all, it depends on the patient's conditions.

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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2009, 03:09:10 AM »
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From the example your given, please don't take time correction for ZWDS. My experiance (San He), it is not accurate when you convert the time based on Solar system. ZWDS use lunar system (observation at night).
Hi X! Nice to speak with you again!

I really disagree with this sentence (in quote), it is not logical. If its wrong, its totally wrong. You main star in your life palace wouldn't change from one to another just because I choose to use 4 hua instead of sanhe... There is no way flying my 4 hua is correct if the star formation is wrong.

I.... don't get it really >.<"

The technique of Si Hua you used, is different from what I have read.
The book say, San Cai or Three Power, are Original Chart (Heaven), decade (Earth) and annual chart (Man).
Earth is a launcher (Tai Ji).
Are you mean, Clash with Original/Natal Parent or Annual Self ?
The book I've read does not cover this thing. It is more like San He for me.

I hope he can get a girlfriend soon and earn big money. Cause after that LP things 'may' get ugly.

If you want to know more about some fly star method i use:

http://www.fivearts.net/index.php/topic,2854.0.html

I am a friend of the fat Laphard, and I know only bits of ZWDS lol. Thank for mentioning me. :>
hi ZD,
I am not FAT! >.<"

I have been observing the bio-chemistry, haemo, and urine chemistry tests of my mother since 2000. She is a diabetic (hypo), gout, hypertension, and kidney patient with only 4 valves functioning, as well as a 1mm growth pressing on her pituitary gland. Thus we have to monitor her levels of creatinine (higher means no good; too much = dialysis required) and glucose (within levels = good; too little = need to take medication to raise blood sugar levels) in blood.

In early July 2007, after she returned from Vietnam, her creatinine level suddenly shot up from 2.00 to 2.61, and her legs swelled up to about 10%. After taking the medication to flush out the excessive water, she was discharged a week later. She watched her diet and cut down on protein intake to maximum 500g of fish daily.

She picked up meditation and Quantum Touch in late 2007 / early 2008 and practiced it regularly (once daily for about 1 hr). She also went for brisk-walks every Sunday morning. She did her half-yearly check-up in Jan 2008 and to the doctors' surprise, her creatinine level had dropped from 2.61 to 1.72. The doctors cut down her medication and reduced it to the minimal of 100mg of Hyzaar (to control the uric acid as she had gout too) as compared to the norms of 300mg. Tobumide was reduced from 500mg x2 to 250mg x2. Allopurinol of 100mg to 50mg.

Although she watched her diet after the checkup in Jan 2008 and her creatinine levels shot back up to 2.01 in April 2008; it rose to 2.07 in November 2008. Doctors termed it as the "aging process" and "deterioration".

She got adventurous in 2009 as she decided to resume a "normal" diet and stopped all brisk walks as she was very busy with work. In June 2009 of this year, she did her routine half-yearly check-up and her creatinine level was back up to 2.50, raising alarm bells. We invited my Master to audit our place and to our surprise all the people in the house was suppressed by inauspicious energies; luckily it would not cause accidents as the inauspicious energy was mild. He mentioned that the best he could implement was two words, "Ping An" (Peace/Safety). We did Feng Shui interventions in July 2009 and just recently in December 2009, her creatinine was down to 2.22. The weird thing was that her glucose level was within the normal regions even though she fasted (without medication). Furthermore, her haemoglobin counters raised by 0.4, which was a good sign as kidney patients were afraid of low blood count. All this without any dietary restrictions nor cardiovascular exercise; just through daily meditation, QT, and the Feng Shui intervention in July 2009. There was something that was not positive, which was her uric acid level jumped from 7.7 to 10.8. We could not understand why until she admitted that she stopped taking her Hyzaar since June 2009. Thus her doctors recommended her to resume the 100mg of Hyzaar. As of now I am asking my mother to embark on a TCM journey to help her organs resume back to its functioning levels; without the help of drugs that impact her liver and kidneys in the long-term.

As I look back at her tests results and analyzed the influence of Tai Sui and the dynamic ZWDS charts, I begin to wonder if the converse, riding and taking in auspicious energy, holds true for great health and harmony.

Although this is purely an anecdotal and solitary case, which does not fit in the "scientific methods of statistical research". I am happy that it works.

Hi Capriken,
Sad to heard of a love one whose carry so much pain inside. Hope she get better. She interest in Qi Gong or Tai ji?
Think its better than brisk-walking.

Anyway, take care everyone. Be well, and hope you all have a fruitfull day/night.

Cheers,
L

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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2010, 09:12:59 AM »
Hi L,

Do you have any idea, about overlap palace. Like self decade overlap annual health.
What does it means in Si Hua ?

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Re: Si Hua
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2010, 03:49:32 AM »
Hi L,

Do you have any idea, about overlap palace. Like self decade overlap annual health.
What does it means in Si Hua ?

Best regards,

X

It means more info....related issue.

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Re: Si Hua
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Re: Si Hua
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2010, 10:53:31 AM »
Hi Laphard,


Quote
Rule 1. Annual palace always fly star back to Natal palace. Example: Annual wealth hua ji to Natal health. From this movement to natal, u will know if its inauspicious or auspicious.

Do you mean that Annual palace affect the Natal palace, straight?... without going to Decade and then Natal,  right?

In  general:
Annual palace affect Natal
Decade palace affect Natal

...but of course everything affect everything, the key how to read it and as you said it comes with experiences.

A quick example what I mean:

female, born in oct. 24 1978, Hai hour

in 2009 in natal Carrier p has decade Health p and annual Thinking p
Wen Qu transformed to Hua Ji (2009) in annual Thinking p and that have a direct negative affect on natal Carrier in the same domain and also it is attacking natal Marriage. These are the palaces which feel the most influence from Hua Ji.


Regards,
Noran  ;xun;