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The theory and concept of dragon
« on: May 23, 2007, 06:24:47 AM »
The Concept and Theory of Dragon in Yang Gong Fengshui
 
 There is Dragon and Water Dragon in every part of the World.  The Dragon in China might not the same as the ones in other parts of the World, but the Theory and Concept applying to the Dragons in other parts of the World will remain unchanged.   Our members of Yu Che Tang, Malaysia Chapter has done some research on the Dragon in China. 

The findings are as follows:
According to the Zang Shu (Book of Burial), Earth produces Qi and Qi produces Water.   Qi moves underground to form Landscape.   As Qi moves, the Earth becomes the Earth Dragon.  As Qi produces Water, water follows Dragon, it becomes the Water Dragon. Thus the Earth Dragon and Water Dragon move towards the same direction.
 
The Landscape of China is higher on the West and lower on the East side.  The centre point of Qing Zang Highland, the landscape slopes down like a staircase till the Pacific Ocean.  This phenomena was already stated in Tian Guan Historical Report some  2000 years ago.  Thus, our Yu Che Jing authored by Yang Gong concluded from this Phenomena that when the Dragon and Water is described separately for External Qi (4 External Group of Yin Yang), is to differentiated from that described for Inner Qi (4 Inner Group of Yin Yang)  (please refer to the previous article of Dragon is Yang and Water is Yin)

In this case, Dragon traverse from West to the East is Yang normally referred as Left-turning.  As the Dragon produces Water, Water follows Dragon flowing from the same direction as the Dragon does. Hence Yang Dragon produces Yang Water that flows from West to the East.   That is why our Yang Gong Fengshui places so much importance on the subjectivity of phenomena. 
 
According to our Yu Che Jing, Long Mai (Dragon arteries) originated from Kun Loon Mountain, separated into 3 Dragons into China and became five Dragons respectively namely, Qian Dragon, Kun Dragon, Kan Dragon, Li Dragon and Dui Dragon.
 
There are two types of Dragons, the Highland Dragon and Flatland Dragon.  Actually the Flatland is not flat by itself but is made up of many Small Dragons on Earth about the same height according to the Zang Shu.   Hence, on Flatland when Water Dragon flows from the Left then Dragon is left; and when Water flows from the Right, Dragon comes from the Right, and till the two Water Dragons meet as husband and wife in Xuan Kong (Left-turning Yang Dragon and Yang Water marrying Right-turning Yin Dragon and Yin Water in Xuan Kong represented by 4 External Groups  of Yin Yang 8 Gods Dragon God and Water God of Metal, Fire, Wood Group and Earth and Water as one Group) , there might be found the Dragon Cave (Loong Xue).
 
The term Water Dragon is used because water follows the vales, valleys and ravines of hills and Mountains (Dragon), hence “water dragon”. 

Dragon is very lively as it changes all the time -- sometimes small and sometimes big, sometimes it moves sometimes it stops, sometimes high sometimes low, it moves like a snake.  As such, there are big Dragons and small Dragons.   There are different shapes and contours of Dragon.  Thus in Yang Gong Fengshui, we must audit the Dragon and Water Dragon from the Ming Tang of Dragon Cave, right back to the Head of Dragon, Parents Dragon, Shao Ju Dragon and Tai Ju Dragon of their respective shape, contour and direction to decide the Dragon is Sheng Wang or Sui Kun, in order to make sure Heaven, Earth and Human are of same Gua (Harmony) to be auspicious.   This is known as Lai Long Zhen Xue.
 
 
Moonchin,
Ganzhou Yu Che Tang,
Yang Gong Fengshui Malaysia.

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 02:50:42 AM »
Hi moonchin,

So all begin with the Earth. Earth begets Qi, the flow of Qi within earth creates Dragon and as Qi gives birth to water, the flow of water will follow the Dragon, as Qi does. Water is the creation of Qi in stillness and dragon is the result of Qi in motion within the Earth. The direction of Qi flow determines the flow of Dragon and indicates the direction of Water flow.  ~17~

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 03:34:37 AM »
yep.  thats correct

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2007, 03:55:19 AM »
upon reflection.....

Water is the creation of Qi in stillness and dragon is the result of Qi in motion within the Earth.

its not so much as water being created  by qi in stillness as being motionless.  There is always a flux, a motion when anything changes from one medium to another.  therefore this stillness thing cannot be taken too literally. there is movement when qi forms into water, likewise with qi forming dragon.

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 11:06:23 PM »
hmmm law of energy conservation? Lol.. Sounds like it!

This is a really great piece! Thanks moonchin! Food for thought!

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 04:24:04 PM »
Hi Moonchin:

May I butt in into this conversation?

upon reflection.....
its not so much as water being created  by qi in stillness as being motionless.  There is always a flux, a motion when anything changes from one medium to another.  therefore this stillness thing cannot be taken too literally. there is movement when qi forms into water, likewise with qi forming dragon. 

Indeed.

Many people, when reading the Zang Shu think that water is still in the sense of lacking any and all movement.  This is not so.  Water, here, is in stillness but not stagnant.

Stagnant water has no movement, and hence, given enough time, it will spoil.  Spoil water, then is a shar and cannot create anything good or possitive.

Water, to be a bearer of sheng qi (the opposite of a shar or sha qi), it must be "healthy" and thus, there must be some movement, albeit unperceptible, to maintain its health.  As brother Moonchin says, we should refrain ourselves of thinking that water is in absolute rest.  Using a colloquial expresion, "it ain't so".

Moonchin: You have defined what a water dragon is and I thank you for that.  However, I think it will help if you also define what "dragon" per se is within the context of Feng Shui and of your School.  How would venerable Master <Yang would define "dragon"?

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 10:34:29 AM »
Hi Moonchin

Very interesting, do you know where can I learn Yang Gong feng shui in malaysia or any feng shui tour to Jiangxi.

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 01:59:07 PM »
This is a very interesting point:

In xiantian bagua, the mountains (gen) are in NW and the lowlands (dui) in SE.  What was the point of observation of the ancient Chinese?  Water flows from NW to SE to the sea.  I call this the geographical axis of xiantian bagua.

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Re: The theory and concept of dragon
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2010, 03:00:12 AM »
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In xiantian bagua, the mountains (gen) are in NW and the lowlands (dui) in SE.  What was the point of observation of the ancient Chinese?  Water flows from NW to SE to the sea.  I call this the geographical axis of xiantian bagua

I think it's important, because what we are study now is not even the basic.

3rd class master: Run all over the mountain 
2nd class master: Look for water and walk
1st class master: look at Qi and walk

If you don't understand the Macro than you are not in the class.

 

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