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Which 12 qi phases table do you use?

1. Yin Yang 5 Elements table
2. 5 Elements table
3. Confused & not sure
4. Don't use 12 qi phases
5. Never heard of 12 qi phases
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12 Qi Phases.
« on: November 28, 2005, 08:23:33 AM »
Five Arts usage:
- Da Liu Ren
- Four Pillars Bazi
- Najia System of Yi Jing (thanks to Bazisuanming)
- Qi Men Dun Jia
- San He (thanks to Bazisuanming)
- Zi Wei Dou Shu (thanks to ling)


Please feel free to post other usage that you know of.? ;)
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2005, 09:01:45 AM »
1. Yin Yang 5 Elements 12 Qi Phases Table
Yang HS (odd number) moves forward (clockwise) in the EB plate. Yin HS (even number) moves backward (anti-clockwise) in the EB plate.

HS1HS2HS3HS4HS5HS6HS7HS8HS9HS10
长生zhǎng shēngBirthEB12EB7EB3EB10EB3EB10EB6EB1EB9EB4
沐浴mù yùBathEB1EB6EB4EB9EB4EB9EB7EB12EB10EB3
冠带guàn dàiAttireEB2EB5EB5EB8EB5EB8EB8EB11EB11EB2
临官lín guānComing of AgeEB3EB4EB6EB7EB6EB7EB9EB10EB12EB1
帝旺dì wàngProsperity PeakEB4EB3EB7EB6EB7EB6EB10EB9EB1EB12
衰shuāiAgingEB5EB2EB8EB5EB8EB5EB11EB8EB2EB11
病bìngSicknessEB6EB1EB9EB4EB9EB4EB12EB7EB3EB10
死sǐDeathEB7EB12EB10EB3EB10EB3EB1EB6EB4EB9
墓mùTombEB8EB11EB11EB2EB11EB2EB2EB5EB5EB8
绝juéReposeEB9EB10EB12EB1EB12EB1EB3EB4EB6EB7
胎tāiWombEB10EB9EB1EB12EB1EB12EB4EB3EB7EB6
养yǎngGestationEB11EB8EB2EB11EB2EB11EB5EB2EB8EB5
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2005, 09:03:40 AM »
2. Five Elements 12 Qi Phases Table
Both Yang HS and Yin HS moves forward (clockwise) in the EB plate.

HS1
HS2		HS3
HS4
HS5
HS6		HS7
HS8		HS9
HS10
长生zhǎng shēngBirthEB12EB3EB6EB9
沐浴mù yùBathEB1EB4EB7EB10
冠带guàn dàiAttireEB2EB5EB8EB11
临官lín guānComing of AgeEB3EB6EB9EB12
帝旺dì wàngProsperity PeakEB4EB7EB10EB1
衰shuāiAgingEB5EB8EB11EB2
病bìngSicknessEB6EB9EB12EB3
死sǐDeathEB7EB10EB1EB4
墓mùTombEB8EB11EB2EB5
绝juéReposeEB9EB12EB3EB6
胎tāiWombEB10EB1EB4EB7
养yǎngGestationEB11EB2EB5EB8
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2005, 10:28:26 AM »
Hi, 

zi wei dou shu also uses 12 qi phases

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2005, 02:43:38 AM »
Hi  :)

San He and the Najia System of Yi Jing

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 10:31:51 PM »
Does anyone know why the change with the modern table? If the traditional works, why change it?

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2006, 09:02:16 AM »
Hi Dean,

Now I think I should change the word 'modern' to Five Elements Qi Phases as it better/correctly describe the whole idea. By the name you can tell why it is different from the first table.

One area we can find the common use for this second table is in San He (triangular combinations of EB). For example:
EB12 (birth) + EB4 (prosperity peak) + EB8 (tomb) = Wood
EB3 (birth) + EB7 (prosperity peak) + Eb11 (tomb) = Fire
EB6 (birth) + EB10 (prosperity peak) + EB2 (tomb) = Metal
EB9 (birth) + Eb1 (prosperity peak) + EB5 (tomb) = Water

San He teaching will always mention that the combinations consist of (birth) + (prosperity peak) + (tomb) = element

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 06:14:23 PM »
Ahh, makes sense. San He is school that I've only studied quite briefly, Thanks Meek.  ~O0

Do you or anyone else have experience in assessing the difference between the two in actual 4P charts?

All the best
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 07:47:58 AM »
Hi Ling and other maintainers,

Meek is very busy moving this site to another server, could someone please advise me the missing alphabets?

Thanks.

Quote from: mystery
Thanks, Meek for taking the time in doing this.  :)

What are the missing alphabets next to "s" and "y":  死 sǐ Death, 养 yǎng Gestation?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2007, 07:26:32 AM by mystery »
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 08:18:33 AM »

"What are the missing alphabets next to "s" and "y":  死 sǐ Death, 养 yǎng Gestation?"

si - Death
yang - Gestation
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 04:42:57 PM »
Hi candlelight!

Thank you. :)

After the move to the new server, some of the alphabets were replaced with question marks.  :D
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 12:11:19 AM »
Hi mystery  :D


Quote from: mystery on May 30, 2007, 07:47:58 AM
Meek is very busy moving this site to another server, could someone please advise me the missing alphabets?

You mean the aphabets before 'S' & 'Y'? It's a chinese character.   :)

Cheers,
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2007, 03:34:49 PM »
Hi ling :)

Quote from: ling on June 08, 2007, 12:11:19 AM
You mean the aphabets before 'S' & 'Y'? It's a chinese character.   :)

I know that they are Chinese fonts. I was referring to the question marks ->> m? y? ; gu?n d?i << - it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered.  :(

Take care. :)
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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2007, 09:42:35 PM »
Hi mystery,

They are Pinyin,
                                                    Stages of Qi
Chang Sheng 長 生 Growth----------------(1st)
Mu Yu 沐 浴 Bath-------------------------(2nd)
Guan Dai 冠 帶 Youth/Attire---------------(3rd)
Lin Guan 臨 官 Officer/Coming to Age------(4th)
Di Wang 蒂 旺 Prosperity Peak-------------(5th)
Shuai 衰 Weakening/Aging-----------------(6th)
Bing 病 Sick/Sickness---------------------(7th)
Si 死 Death-------------------------------(8th)
Mu 墓 Grave/Tomb------------------------(9th)
Jue 絕 Extinction/Repose------------------(10th)
Tai 胎 Conceived/Womb-------------------(11th)
Yang 養 Nourishing/Gestation--------------(12th)

 :)

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2007, 03:14:12 AM »
Quote from: mystery on June 08, 2007, 03:34:49 PM
it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered.  :(

Each post is numbered. Your last post was post no #12 see ...

Re: 12 Qi Phases.
 Reply #12 on: ...

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