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Which 12 qi phases table do you use?

1. Yin Yang 5 Elements table
2. 5 Elements table
3. Confused & not sure
4. Don't use 12 qi phases
5. Never heard of 12 qi phases

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 04:42:57 PM »
Hi candlelight!

Thank you. :)

After the move to the new server, some of the alphabets were replaced with question marks.  :D

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 12:11:19 AM »
Hi mystery  :D


Meek is very busy moving this site to another server, could someone please advise me the missing alphabets?

You mean the aphabets before 'S' & 'Y'? It's a chinese character.   :)

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2007, 03:34:49 PM »
Hi ling :)

You mean the aphabets before 'S' & 'Y'? It's a chinese character.   :)

I know that they are Chinese fonts. I was referring to the question marks ->> m? y? ; gu?n d?i << - it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered.  :(

Take care. :)

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2007, 09:42:35 PM »
Hi mystery,

They are Pinyin,
                                                    Stages of Qi
Chang Sheng 長 生 Growth----------------(1st)
Mu Yu 沐 浴 Bath-------------------------(2nd)
Guan Dai 冠 帶 Youth/Attire---------------(3rd)
Lin Guan 臨 官 Officer/Coming to Age------(4th)
Di Wang 蒂 旺 Prosperity Peak-------------(5th)
Shuai 衰 Weakening/Aging-----------------(6th)
Bing 病 Sick/Sickness---------------------(7th)
Si 死 Death-------------------------------(8th)
Mu 墓 Grave/Tomb------------------------(9th)
Jue 絕 Extinction/Repose------------------(10th)
Tai 胎 Conceived/Womb-------------------(11th)
Yang 養 Nourishing/Gestation--------------(12th)

 :)

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2007, 03:14:12 AM »
it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered.  :(

Each post is numbered. Your last post was post no #12 see ...

Re: 12 Qi Phases.
 Reply #12 on: ...


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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2007, 03:37:14 AM »
Hi meek,

Each post is numbered. Your last post was post no #12 see ...

Re: 12 Qi Phases.
 Reply #12 on: ...


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Sorry for my bad explanation. Yes, the posts are numbered but the numbers don't appear when I'm replying to the poster. The posts were not numbered below the reply box - see the messages I copied below the reply box (try it by yourself to see what I mean):

Posted by: meek 
Insert Quote
Quote from: mystery on Today at 04:34:49 AM
it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered. 


Each post is numbered. Your last post was post no #12 see ...

Re: 12 Qi Phases.
 Reply #12 on: ...

 
Posted on: Today at 10:42:35 AMPosted by: relic 
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Hi mystery,

They are Pinyin,
                                                    Stages of Qi
Chang Sheng 長 生 Growth----------------(1st)
Mu Yu 沐 浴 Bath-------------------------(2nd)
Guan Dai 冠 帶 Youth/Attire---------------(3rd)
Lin Guan 臨 官 Officer/Coming to Age------(4th)
Di Wang 蒂 旺 Prosperity Peak-------------(5th)
Shuai 衰 Weakening/Aging-----------------(6th)
Bing 病 Sick/Sickness---------------------(7th)
Si 死 Death-------------------------------(8th)
Mu 墓 Grave/Tomb------------------------(9th)
Jue 絕 Extinction/Repose------------------(10th)
Tai 胎 Conceived/Womb-------------------(11th)
Yang 養 Nourishing/Gestation--------------(12th)

 

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Posted on: Today at 04:34:49 AMPosted by: mystery 
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Hi ling


Quote from: ling on Yesterday at 01:11:19 PM
You mean the aphabets before 'S' & 'Y'? It's a chinese character.   

I know that they are Chinese fonts. I was referring to the question marks ->> m? y? ; gu?n d?i << - it's difficult to refer to the messages in question because the posts are not numbered. 

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2007, 03:44:32 AM »
Hi relic, :)

They are Pinyin,
                                                    Stages of Qi
Chang Sheng 長 生 Growth----------------(1st)
Mu Yu 沐 浴 Bath-------------------------(2nd)
Guan Dai 冠 帶 Youth/Attire---------------(3rd)
Lin Guan 臨 官 Officer/Coming to Age------(4th)
Di Wang 蒂 旺 Prosperity Peak-------------(5th)
Shuai 衰 Weakening/Aging-----------------(6th)
Bing 病 Sick/Sickness---------------------(7th)
Si 死 Death-------------------------------(8th)
Mu 墓 Grave/Tomb------------------------(9th)
Jue 絕 Extinction/Repose------------------(10th)
Tai 胎 Conceived/Womb-------------------(11th)
Yang 養 Nourishing/Gestation--------------(12th)

 :)

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relic

Thank you. I know that they are PinYin but somehow it's difficult to guess which alphabet the ? should represent. I like your translations. :) May I copy it?

Thanks, again. :)

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2007, 09:55:37 AM »
Hi all,
I would like to learn more about qi phases.... what does each phase mean? Any books/materials (in English) to recommend for reading?

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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2007, 09:55:35 PM »
Hi All,
Just want to ask 2 questions
1. From what I understand about Qi Phases only growth, entry, peak and burial are supportive EB. Won't that means that you're more likely  not to get a good bazi chart?
2. If peak phase is Yang Ren and can hurt you, doesn't that further decrease your chances of getting a good chart?

Another thing... won't the use of progressive/reverse calculation of qi phases for Yin HS make a great difference to the qi phases obtained and hence the interpretation of a bazi chart?

 Oo? Oo? Oo? Am I making sense?


Post moved to SZBZ board - hope you will get a better response there as yours is a bazi question.


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Re: 12 Qi Phases.
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2007, 10:38:09 PM »
On Saturday evening, after chatting about many interesting stuff with ace (including 12QP), I had some thoughts on this topic while traveling on the mrt (underground/metro).

Look at the 60 Jia Zi table, we find that HS1 Jia only pair up with EB1, EB11, EB9, EB7, EB5 AND EB3. Thus we have Jia Zi, Jia Xu, Jia Shen, Jia Wu, Jia Chen and Jia Yin. There will never be Jia Chou, Jia Hai,etc. This means Yang stems will only meet Yang branches, and Yin stems will only meet Yin branches.

From the above view, there seems to be a missing link in putting the 60 Jia Zi table together with either Yin Yang 12QP or 5 Elements 12QP tables. Does any one has any way to explain how and why?

Also, there are many questions like... how did 12QP come about? Is it meant to be used with 60 Jia Zi? Is it usable in other areas of five arts? Which are the areas? How about Na Yin 5 Elements?

[meek goes thinking again #??]

 

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