General date selection.

[meek]

General Date Selection

I will use the word lucky and unlucky loosely for ease of writing.

There is a saying:
Lucky month is more prefered than lucky year,
Lucky day is more prefered than luck month,
Lucky time is more prefered than lucky day.
Please feel free to elaborate on this point and share your views.

1. Birth Data
First and most important point to remember: A lucky day does not mean everyone in the world is lucky on that day. It can be good for one, bad for another or good+bad for someone else. Therefore each individual's birth data has to be considered in date selection.

Birth data can be:
- gua (feng shui)
- birthyear stem/branch and age stem/branch (DLR)
- 4 pillars (ba zi)
- any others?

As you can see, this point applies to any method of date seletion be it DLR, feng shui, QMDJ, divination, four pillars, etc.

 

[meek]

2. Purpose
When does one need to select a date?

In chinese tradition, one select a date for
- marriage
- funeral
- building a new house
- opening a new business
- going on a long journey
- getting a new job or promoted to a new position
- planting a new batch of crop
- C-sec of delivery of baby (thanks to keenlearner)

Feel free to add any other traditional purposes or modern-day purposes that date selection can be used.

 

[costagnac]

I disscused this question with my friend Rapanui.
and probaly
influences of year are strongest especially bad influences.
so this means that if somebady has bad year then he should seek good month
if month is bad then seek a good day, if day is bad seek good hour
finaly (shortly  ) in bad year you can find good hour.

Any correction to this view?

Regards
Costagnac

[meek]

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[meek]

I disscused this question with my friend Rapanui.
and probaly
influences of year are strongest especially bad influences.
so this means that if somebady has bad year then he should seek good month
if month is bad then seek a good day, if day is bad seek good hour
finaly (shortly  ) in bad year you can find good hour.

Any correction to this view?

Regards
Costagnac

It's quite true in a sense...

Take travelling as an example again. If it is not advisable for us to travel during a particular year, but circumstances require us to travel, we will have to pick a lucky month and lucky day. If our job require us to travel next week, we have no choice to select a lucky month nor lucky day. We'll have to try a lucky time on any given day. Sometime we can't even choose the time...

 

[meek]

Another pointer just came to mind...

Harness good luck or avoid bad luck
Generally, when we talk about date selection, we are refering to picking a lucky time to harness the auspicious. There are times when we want to know the time and place to avoid doing somethings. This is seen in feng shui when we want to avoid renovating a part of a property. When we can't avoid renovating that area, what should we do?

Also, if an event had happened, we might want to pick a time and place to avoid, or even run away from, the inauspicious event.

I'll share an easy and basic date selection method as a guide which we can use daily.

 

[meek]

Weather
After selecting a lucky date, of course we have to check the weather report. It's no good having a lucky date to repair the roof or hold an outdoor event when there is going to be a heavy storm on that day or evening. 

If the selected lucky date is too far away for a weather forecast (eg. months ahead), that's when a divination for weather comes in handy.

 

[Yvonne (aka Keenlearner)]

Hi meek,
Completely agreed. One thing I could add is C-sec of delivery of baby.
 
Rgds
Keenlearner

2. Purpose
When does one need to select a date?

In chinese tradition, one select a date for
- marriage
- funeral
- building a new house
- opening a new business
- going on a long journey
- getting a new job or promoted to a new position
- planting a new batch of crop

Feel free to add any other traditional purposes or modern-day purposes that date selection can be used.

 

[herminator8899]

Yippie  long waiting for such a topic.

influences of year are strongest especially bad influences.
so this means that if somebady has bad year then he should seek good month
if month is bad then seek a good day, if day is bad seek good hour
finaly (shortly  Cool ) in bad year you can find good hour.

sounds logical. Some questions about this approach.

Maybe you have a "bad year" and it is Sept. Then the "bad energy" has 9 months to "work" So how could a "good mont" or good hour counteract?

Do we talk about quantity or quality or both and how to handle them.
At the other side we could take the homeopathy, there the "smallest" energy is the strongest. Then the hour may be, would be the most interesting part?

Any idea?

[costagnac]

Hi Herminator
Sounds like: Hands off!! I will do nothing cause bad year ... but life is going. 
In my opinion it is like TAO sign. Dark part has bright point and Light part has dark point. You choose.
So why counteract? That is another way of acting - yang dynamic, yin passive. different way of the same action? And maybe - no acting no mistakes?

C.

[herminator8899]

Hi costagnac,

Sounds like: Hands off!! I will do nothing cause bad year ... but life is going.  Roll Eyes

Maybe some people react this way. But that was not the intent. As you said life is going.
So i think the day selection methods try to give people a "way out" or a "tick" that they can live their lives.
But sometimes, if it is "bad enough" they stay at home. As you said "And maybe - no acting no mistakes?"

What i an looking for is a "scientific" way to work with this "rules" If you know the mechanism you can play with the parts.
As i think here we "match" energies. And there is qualtiy and? quantity.

[costagnac]

because this is real life I think you will never know and never be right to say about the truth in 100%
And never mind what kind of tools will you use, scientific or non scientific.
The tool which we use are rather weak and everything is our imagination about reality and "unreality".
This is very subjective (personal) even if we try to give advices for somebody or listen somebody's advices.

What kind of tool we need?
how many will we invent?
 

[akaO]

Hi all,

because this is real life I think you will never know and never be right to say about the truth in 100%
And never mind what kind of tools will you use, scientific or non scientific.
The tool which we use are rather weak and everything is our imagination about reality and "unreality".
This is very subjective (personal) even if we try to give advices for somebody or listen somebody's advices.

What kind of tool we need?
how many will we invent?

I agree with you.

akaO

[meek]

Hi meek,
Completely agreed. One thing I could add is C-sec of delivery of baby.
 
Rgds
Keenlearner

Hi Keenlearner,

Thanks. I've added that into the list.

Regarding date selection for birth of baby, I heard from a gyne that there are some chinese, and even some Indian (as in India, not S.A native Indians), patients here in M'sia wanted their baby delivered on certain auspicious day. But there are times when things might not go according to man's will, and the baby being delivered on a different day. And there are some who even planned right down to the hour.

I supppose if they planned a good year that doesn't clash with the parent's 4 pillars, that may be not be so bad for a start. If the month is good too, that's a plus.

I wonder if there was ever any chinese parent having their children's birth planned according to San He years? Say, 1st child born on Shen, 2nd child born in Zi, 3rd child born on Chen. Maybe that will kept the siblings in 'harmony'?

 

[herminator8899]

Hi meek,

Regarding date selection for birth of baby,

I supppose if they planned a good year that doesn't clash with the parent's 4 pillars, that may be not be so bad for a start. If the month is good too, that's a plus.

Abd what about Ba Zi? ( for the baby) I think if you choose the day in the way clash / no clash or good month / year it is useful for a good start?
But if the ba Zi is not good, then its "bad" for the baby?

So whats more important? I think the Ba Zi should be "optimized"?